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President Barack Obama should say clearly and publicly the United States will use its veto on the U.N. Security Council to block any Palestinian bid to gain UN membership, a senior Republican lawmaker said on Wednesday.
Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a conservative who chairs the House Foreign Affairs Committee, made the call as Obama's administration made diplomatic moves to try to head off a Palestinian plan to gain statehood recognition at the UN General Assembly session that begins on Sept. 19.
U.S. Republicans urge Obama to veto Palestinian statehood bid at UN - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
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While acknowledging the Palestinians could obtain a majority of votes needed in the UN General Assembly for a status upgrade, Ros-Lehtinen insisted the United States oppose this, saying it was better to be "right than in the majority."
Sorry Ros-Lehtinen......it is the majority that is "right".
And by the way folks, Ros-Lehtinen's biggest political contributor.......that's right, AIPAC.
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#1 - Thu Sep 8, 2011 10:05 AM EDTAh yes, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, who also gets large campaign contributions from Irving Moskowitz, the funder of illegal settlements, who is completely against a two state solution. All one has to do is look at her record to see who she represents. She's doing her best to stop the Palestinian UN bid dead in their tracks. She's going above and beyond:
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/08/30/ros_lehtinen_introduces_un_bashing_bill_ahead_of_palestinian_statehood_vote
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Hi Isabella, good to read you again.
I agree with you, this is ridiculous. I wonder how these people expect to see the US in light of these so many different threats and blackmail.
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Maria!! How are you? Gosh, it's been so long since we've talked. I hope all is well with you and your family. Did you ever make it to Croatia?
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President Barack Obama should say clearly and publicly the United States will use its veto on the U.N. Security Council to block any Palestinian bid to gain UN membership, a senior Republican lawmaker said on Wednesday.
No, Mr. President; don't do it. Don't go down in history as the US President who prevented Palestinian statehood; even if it means one term.
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Obama doesn't want to lose the Jewish vote so Palestine will continue to suffer. And for what? Obama will be roundly defeated next year anyway.
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Republican Right wingers are financially supported by pro-Israeli tycoons and gambiling Casino moguls such as Adelson. No wondor why they would side with Israel to block the Palestinian statehood.
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http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2011/09/08/7667103-israeli-news-chief-quits-over-apology-to-mogul
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#2 - Thu Sep 8, 2011 11:55 AM EDTThis Right Wing TEA Party Patriot is all for Palestinian statehood, so stop with the mindless generalizations about us. It's like saying there are no blacks or Democrats among our number; another total falsehood.
To counter that, Ros-Lehtinen last week introduced legislation aiming to cut off U.S. funds for any UN organization that embraces an upgrade to the Palestinians' diplomatic status. The United States is the biggest contributor to the U.N. budget, paying about 22 percent of its core budget and 25 percent of its peacekeeping costs.
Good plan. Let's see how willing are the supporters of Palestine to forego the money for their Islamic principles. The Republicans are experts at "squeezing" people, and this is most effective.
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#3 - Thu Sep 8, 2011 1:31 PM EDTWell shame on blind israeli supporting Republicans. US is working on the side through direct and diplomatic channels with Saudi-Arabia and other oil rich countries to direct the funds through their support. Obama and King Abdalla are working out issues on the sidelines while the bribed under the hand, blind supporters of Israel play out the cruel and drastic polices against the suffering people of Palestine.
So Mirek don't get worked out and jump out of the bowl yet with your obtuse retorts.
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You know I was apolitical science major in college and this still has me confused. If the US ultimately has the Veto to use over this issue why is everyone so afraid? On a different note. If I were Palestinian I would be frustrated with the international communities lack of progress in the area of recognition. The last peace talks were held in October of 2010? The relief flotilla to Gaza was stymied and then stopped by a host of different countries. Now, the Palestinian people are being told that this latest diplomatic gem of a move is not what the world wants to see. I say "tough darts." Give the Palestinians what they seek at the UN, then resume peace talks. What's so hard about that?
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#4 - Thu Sep 8, 2011 2:32 PM EDT"If the US ultimately has the Veto to use over this issue why is everyone so afraid?"
Bobby, the U.S. has veto power in the UN Security Council, not in the UN General Assembly. When the U.S. exercises their veto, Palestine won't become a UN member, but they will have enough votes to be recognized by the UN Security Council. This is why Israel and the U.S. are afraid of it passing in the General Assembly:
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/israelis-could-face-trial-in-the-hague-if-palestinian-statehood-recognized-at-un-experts-warn-1.383144
"Give the Palestinians what they seek at the UN, then resume peace talks. What's so hard about that?"
Abass has already stated once they are recoginized, he will resume peace talks.
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"but they will have enough votes to be recognized by the UN Security Council"
Sorry, typo, UN General Assembly. That's what I get for typing and watching tennis at the same time.
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That's OK. I understand. So this is why I'm confused. What does the Security Council have to do with new member states? I didn't know they were part of the process. I guess I'll have to read the UN Charter. College was a long time ago! In the mean time, why wouldn't the two sides continue to talk peace? I agree with the Palestinian move and their frustration. That's what I meant by "diplomatic gem" of a move. I think it is brilliant and should have been tried a long time ago. I just don't seed how this issue winds up in front of the Security Council. Not for approving new member status anyway.
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Bobby, here are a couple of links that should answer all your questions. Also, I included links to the UN Security Council and the UN General Assembly that explains their functions:
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/09/06/palestinians_have_a_plan_b_for_un_statehood_drive
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=213752
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http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/spotlight/unpalestine/2011/08/201182893234567545.html
A nifty short Al Jazeera analysis and summary, on what the request is, process, weight, outcomes and consequences.
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Thanks bigsaf for the info, So it appears the Palestinians will not go the "full membership route" because the US will Veto. So they will go the "enhanced observer route" similar to the Vatican. I checked out the UN charter and it looks like the GA can consider new members, but the suggested route according to the charter is through the SC by "recommendation". The articles which deal with membership are vague, imo anyway. OK so which member state proposes the question to GA? I am concerned Israel will annex the West Bank.
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